Hertsmere's problems with waste services have been well-documented during the past two years.

The formation of the waste forum, although admittedly never put forward as an all-encompassing solution, appears to have taken an unfortunate backwards turn.One representative's suggestion that interest has waned because most problems have been solved will not wash with many residents. For others to turn up late claiming they did not know what time the meeting started is laughable.At best, the forums show Hertsmere Borough Council's willingness to listen and help, but at worst they are a toothless talking shop.