Stirling Corner: 'We can't let our campaign fail now'

Stirling Corner: 'We can't let our campaign fail now'

Stirling Corner: 'We can't let our campaign fail now'

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Campaigners are urging drivers to keep up the fight to install permanent traffic lights at a “death trap” as their trial period comes to an end.

Transport for London (TfL) finally agreed to test 24-hour traffic lights at Stirling Corner, on the cusp of Borehamwood and Barnet, after a ten-year campaign.

Previously, lights were only on between 3.30pm and 5.30pm but hundreds complained the “lethal” roundabout would benefit from permanent traffic lights.

But a year on from TfL's apparent change of heart, people now have until May 31 to register their views on whether it should become an indefinite fixture.

Long-standing campaigner Sue Alford, of Hunter Close, Borehamwood, said: “We don’t to return to the days of people shaking with fear whenever they go through it.

“Part-time lights cause more chaos, uncertainty and confusion to drivers. It’s basic common sense and it’s our safety they’re toying with.

“We’ll leave no stone unturned in ensuring Stirling Corner remains a safe place for everyone.”

So far, only 153 people have responded with their views, with the overall majority in favour of keeping the lights turned on.

But with 33,000 residents in Borehamwood and around 330,500 in Barnet, campaigners are reaching out to people in the “final hour”

The transport agency is also consulting on whether to reduce the speed limit from 70mph to 50mph on the approach from Rowley Lane and Courtland Avenue, and the A1.

Pedestrians claim they struggle to cross the road to get to the Morrisons superstore, because traffic approaches from the A1 at speeds of up to 70mph.

There are also calls for better safety mechanisms for cyclists, a better exit for traffic leaving Morrisons and a tweak to the traffic light timings for at the southside to Barnet Lane.

Ms Alford added: “We cannot have our ten year campaign fail at this late stage. We’re not sure what TfL might say and we’re worried.”

Fellow campaigner Tony DeSwarte, of Nash Close, said: “People need to get their views across. It’s a racetrack, and driving that fast is completely unnecessary.”

The proposals were originally spiked by Barnet Council’s former cabinet member for environment Brian Coleman, who called them “madness", back in 2000.

But calls for increased safety measures grew louder after a spate of crashes in the area from 2003 to 2011, including a number of deaths.

The issue has become a cross-party matter of concern, having been supported by Labour's GLA member for Barnet Andrew Dismore and Conservative councillor Clive Butchins.

Mr Dismore said: “The trial has been a real success, and it would be a real disappointment if they changed their minds now that they’ve got the support of local people. It’s been more than ten years now.

“I am pleased that we no longer have Brian Coleman as an obstacle. It’s an important safety factor, and hopefully TfL will listen to our views on it.”

The Borehamwood Times is awaiting comment from Transport for London.

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7:08pm Wed 28 May 14

TFEB says...

Look at the picture it says it all, a slow moving tractor and trailer can manage Stirling Corner but not these "drivers".
Look at the picture it says it all, a slow moving tractor and trailer can manage Stirling Corner but not these "drivers". TFEB
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3:41am Thu 29 May 14

Suzy-Sue says...

TFL contact details are further down in my post here:

"Dear Users of Stirling Corner Roundabout

As many of you will be aware Stirling Corner roundabout on the A1, has enjoyed full time traffic lights which have been switched on 24/7 for the past 12 months. This has been part of a TfL trial period and process to assess and improve the safety needs of users and traffic flow aspects of this section of the A1 and adjoining roads, which we have been highlighting during our 10 year long campaign.

After this trial period, TfL will analyse all the data and evidence they have collected, along with letters and views from the public. This is where we need everyone's help, as to date, since the start of this trial period, TfL have only received approximately 139 responses in total to these traffic lights being on 24/7, with the overall majority in favour of keeping these traffic lights turned on. However our concern is this number of responses is relatively low, bearing in mind that around 33,000 people live in Borehamwood, So at this final hour before the trial period ends at the end of this May, we are asking everyone reading this letter to please contact TfL as soon as possible and state their positive response to the 24/7 traffic lights and anything else they wish to mention e.g. the need for a pedestrian crossing (probably on the south side of the roundabout going across the A1 going south), better provisions for cyclists and for a better exit for Stirling Way/ Morrisons traffic and a slight tweak to the traffic light timings for those going round the south side of the roundabout to go down Barnet lane/Furzehill Road direction, as often the static cars waiting there for the lights to change run the risk of being hit by traffic going north to south on the A1, especially if you are the third or fourth car waiting in those lanes.

We cannot have our 10 year campaign fail at this late stage. Anyone using Stirling Corner knows what a nightmare it was to use it, we don't want to return to those days of part-time 3.30pm to 6.30pm traffic lights.

Incidentally having the traffic lights on for a longer part-time period also wouldn't help, as many occasional users of the roundabout were confused if they didn't see the part-time signs, as they didn't know if the traffic lights had failed and so they stopped or hesitated at the white stopping lines, causing near pile ups, when they should have continued driving or others who drove onto the roundabout when they should have stopped to let traffic continue going round the roundabout. See my three minute documentary for proof of this aspect on Youtube - 'Stirling Corner by Paul Welton'

So everyone and your families, friends, work colleagues, with your positive response to the 24/7 traffic lights and anything else you wish to say about Stirling Corner etc, please:

· Email TfL at ‘londonstreets@tfl
.gov.uk’ to give them your views and please copy us in: contactsuzanne@gmail
.com , cllr.clive@gmail.com and andrew.dismore@londo
n.gov.uk, so that we have proof of your response, in case we need to challenge TfL on the number of responses they have received.

· Write to: TfL Customer Services, 4th Floor, 14 Pier Walk, London, SE10 0ES

· Phone TfL’s customer centre on 0343 222 1234 (opt 3, Opt 1)


Many thanks and kind regards for your contribution to our campaign.

Sue Alford - Campaigner for a Safer Stirling Corner
TFL contact details are further down in my post here: "Dear Users of Stirling Corner Roundabout As many of you will be aware Stirling Corner roundabout on the A1, has enjoyed full time traffic lights which have been switched on 24/7 for the past 12 months. This has been part of a TfL trial period and process to assess and improve the safety needs of users and traffic flow aspects of this section of the A1 and adjoining roads, which we have been highlighting during our 10 year long campaign. After this trial period, TfL will analyse all the data and evidence they have collected, along with letters and views from the public. This is where we need everyone's help, as to date, since the start of this trial period, TfL have only received approximately 139 responses in total to these traffic lights being on 24/7, with the overall majority in favour of keeping these traffic lights turned on. However our concern is this number of responses is relatively low, bearing in mind that around 33,000 people live in Borehamwood, So at this final hour before the trial period ends at the end of this May, we are asking everyone reading this letter to please contact TfL as soon as possible and state their positive response to the 24/7 traffic lights and anything else they wish to mention e.g. the need for a pedestrian crossing (probably on the south side of the roundabout going across the A1 going south), better provisions for cyclists and for a better exit for Stirling Way/ Morrisons traffic and a slight tweak to the traffic light timings for those going round the south side of the roundabout to go down Barnet lane/Furzehill Road direction, as often the static cars waiting there for the lights to change run the risk of being hit by traffic going north to south on the A1, especially if you are the third or fourth car waiting in those lanes. We cannot have our 10 year campaign fail at this late stage. Anyone using Stirling Corner knows what a nightmare it was to use it, we don't want to return to those days of part-time 3.30pm to 6.30pm traffic lights. Incidentally having the traffic lights on for a longer part-time period also wouldn't help, as many occasional users of the roundabout were confused if they didn't see the part-time signs, as they didn't know if the traffic lights had failed and so they stopped or hesitated at the white stopping lines, causing near pile ups, when they should have continued driving or others who drove onto the roundabout when they should have stopped to let traffic continue going round the roundabout. See my three minute documentary for proof of this aspect on Youtube - 'Stirling Corner by Paul Welton' So everyone and your families, friends, work colleagues, with your positive response to the 24/7 traffic lights and anything else you wish to say about Stirling Corner etc, please: · Email TfL at ‘londonstreets@tfl .gov.uk’ to give them your views and please copy us in: contactsuzanne@gmail .com , cllr.clive@gmail.com and andrew.dismore@londo n.gov.uk, so that we have proof of your response, in case we need to challenge TfL on the number of responses they have received. · Write to: TfL Customer Services, 4th Floor, 14 Pier Walk, London, SE10 0ES · Phone TfL’s customer centre on 0343 222 1234 (opt 3, Opt 1) Many thanks and kind regards for your contribution to our campaign. Sue Alford - Campaigner for a Safer Stirling Corner Suzy-Sue
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3:45am Thu 29 May 14

Suzy-Sue says...

TFEB - i'm so glad to hear you're such a fantastic fearless driver and that you're ok 'Jack'! Well done!!
TFEB - i'm so glad to hear you're such a fantastic fearless driver and that you're ok 'Jack'! Well done!! Suzy-Sue
  • Score: -2

8:39am Thu 29 May 14

TFEB says...

No special skills or bravery required, just common sense, why not try and develop some?
No special skills or bravery required, just common sense, why not try and develop some? TFEB
  • Score: -4

12:12pm Thu 29 May 14

david Burcombe says...

COME ON you people who use Stirling corner, by being apathetic you will be helping TFL to withdraw the full time lights and that will never be reversed. ACT NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO L:ATE
COME ON you people who use Stirling corner, by being apathetic you will be helping TFL to withdraw the full time lights and that will never be reversed. ACT NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO L:ATE david Burcombe
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9:20am Fri 30 May 14

ANt Gee says...

Sue, David, I support you and hope all drivers who regularly use this junction will too. It has been much safer to use since the traffic lights are on and I will be signing the petition. Thanks for your work on this so far Sue and your group
Sue, David, I support you and hope all drivers who regularly use this junction will too. It has been much safer to use since the traffic lights are on and I will be signing the petition. Thanks for your work on this so far Sue and your group ANt Gee
  • Score: -2

12:23pm Fri 30 May 14

Frank Ward says...

How is it possible to obtain any modicum of satisfaction by making cynical comments about the efforts of others who desire to promote and retain the existing safeguards at Stirling Corner?
This is not a Party political issue unless the grandees of County Hall then fail to take note.
Meanwhile, the comments of TFEB are reprehensible, shameful and require to be dismissed with disdain.
Frank Ward
Chairman
Hertsmere UKIP
How is it possible to obtain any modicum of satisfaction by making cynical comments about the efforts of others who desire to promote and retain the existing safeguards at Stirling Corner? This is not a Party political issue unless the grandees of County Hall then fail to take note. Meanwhile, the comments of TFEB are reprehensible, shameful and require to be dismissed with disdain. Frank Ward Chairman Hertsmere UKIP Frank Ward
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12:57pm Fri 30 May 14

Suzy-Sue says...

So who is TFEB? I thought 'he' was some lonely old troll who had a sad life and nothing better to do than put rather negative /unhelpful comments on here from time to time. So if TFEB has a position of authority I think we should know who he is? (I assume its a he???)
So who is TFEB? I thought 'he' was some lonely old troll who had a sad life and nothing better to do than put rather negative /unhelpful comments on here from time to time. So if TFEB has a position of authority I think we should know who he is? (I assume its a he???) Suzy-Sue
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12:17am Mon 2 Jun 14

watfordman says...

claire ward ex labour mp is ukip frank wards' daughter, she was was mp for watford herts from 1997 to 2010 who would of thought , fancy that . frankie .she was voted out 2010,
claire ward ex labour mp is ukip frank wards' daughter, she was was mp for watford herts from 1997 to 2010 who would of thought , fancy that . frankie .she was voted out 2010, watfordman
  • Score: 8

8:51pm Mon 2 Jun 14

John_W says...

TFEB wrote:
No special skills or bravery required, just common sense, why not try and develop some?
And other drivers using their indicators and being in the right lane...
[quote][p][bold]TFEB[/bold] wrote: No special skills or bravery required, just common sense, why not try and develop some?[/p][/quote]And other drivers using their indicators and being in the right lane... John_W
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