No sign of resolution for parking problems in Manor Way in Borehamwood

Rosalie Brown complains some of the Goodmans Autos cars are badly parked

Goodmans Autos vehicles parked along the full length of Manor Way

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Workers unable to park their cars near their offices have said it is “wrong” a local garage should take up all the spaces on the street.

However Ian Goodman, who owns Goodmans Autos, says his rental cars and vans are parked on Manor Way legally and the council has no power to force him to move them. 

Rosalie Brown, who started working in Delta Court in Manor Way last June, said parking for herself, her 20 colleagues and other local businesses, is “a nightmare”.

She said: “Goodmans Autos vans and cars take up between 30 and 40 places in Manor Way and we think it is totally unfair for them to use all these spaces.

“We often spend 15 or 20 minutes driving round looking for a space. Today I had to park in Kenilworth Drive and walk, which is hard for me because I am in excruciating pain from a bad leg.”

She said some of the Goodmans cars had been parked badly, with large gaps between vehicles, meaning there was no room for other cars.

Ms Brown added: “It seems wrong that a commercial company is able to use street parking to the detriment of employees of many local companies who give our custom to the local shops and cafes.

“I don’t begrudge Mr Goodman his business, but there must be something that can be done.”

Workers have been forced to park in Durham Road and Armstrong Close, which means residents are suffering from lack of parking spaces.

Roger Phillips, who lives off Manor Way, said the problem has been going on for the past five years.

He said: “Because Goodmans vehicles take up the entire road, people working at the offices park outside my house, meaning there is nowhere for my visitors to put their cars.

“I have complained repeatedly to the council but nothing has been done about it. It should be able to change the bylaws so this does not happen.”

John Byrne, who suffers from cancer, said: “Because of the way people are parked, I have had times when I need to be rushed to hospital and the ambulance cannot get through.

“It’s very frustrating for us and it’ll only get worse as more people move to Borehamwood and there is no parking for them.”

Councillor Alan Plancey, who represents Borehamwood South for Hertfordshire County Council, has received hundreds of complaints from residents and workers.

He said: “It is unfair and inconsiderate of Goodmans to take up all these spaces. However the firm is doing nothing illegal.”

A spokesman for Hertfordshire County Council said it was considering extending double yellow lines in some parts of Durham Road and Armstrong Close to control parking and improve visibility.

However as the cars in the Goodmans fleet were “parked legally and taxed, insured and appear to comply with the law in other respects” it was unable to force Goodman’s Autos to remove the vehicles.

Mr Goodman said his fleet of 67 cars, given free of charge to anyone whose car is being repaired by his company, was doing a service to Borehamwood and he was being unfairly victimised.

He said: “I work seven days a week to keep people on the roads. I even worked on my wedding day. I’ve been here 25 years and the problems only started when the new businesses in Manor Way were built without sufficient parking.

“The council has threatened me with court action, I’ve had every councillor complaining at me, but there’s nothing they can do. Don’t these people have anything better to do than make silly complaints?

“I make sure my cars are parked like clockwork. It would be lovely if the council could provide me with a piece of land I could rent to park my cars on to get them off the road, but it won’t.”

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3:37pm Thu 20 Feb 14

pwelsh says...

is it not possible for the council to implement a 'no parking for more than one or two hours' between certain hours in manor way ? the pressure on those car parking bays is only going to increase this year when the flats at the bottom of manor way are finished and occupied. can a commercial company really dictate to the council and dominate so many public parking bays when other companies have to arrange their own car parking. if hundreds of complaints have really been received then the council need to sort this out.
is it not possible for the council to implement a 'no parking for more than one or two hours' between certain hours in manor way ? the pressure on those car parking bays is only going to increase this year when the flats at the bottom of manor way are finished and occupied. can a commercial company really dictate to the council and dominate so many public parking bays when other companies have to arrange their own car parking. if hundreds of complaints have really been received then the council need to sort this out. pwelsh
  • Score: 21

3:54pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Small John says...

There is no way I would give any custom to someone who demonstrates such an aggressive dog-in-a-manger attitude. Who said "There's no such thing as bad publicity?" Monumental disregard for everyone else taking up 30-40 parking places might no be illegal but it defines anti social behaviour.
There is no way I would give any custom to someone who demonstrates such an aggressive dog-in-a-manger attitude. Who said "There's no such thing as bad publicity?" Monumental disregard for everyone else taking up 30-40 parking places might no be illegal but it defines anti social behaviour. Small John
  • Score: 29

5:15pm Thu 20 Feb 14

bwood ukip says...

Well done Ian newcomers whinging again!
Well done Ian newcomers whinging again! bwood ukip
  • Score: -21

6:24pm Thu 20 Feb 14

arturon says...

Why not just re-name Borehamwood and call it Goodman Autos. It is scandalous that they are allowed to get away with this takeover of Manor Way. There must be something the Council can legally do to stop this
Why not just re-name Borehamwood and call it Goodman Autos. It is scandalous that they are allowed to get away with this takeover of Manor Way. There must be something the Council can legally do to stop this arturon
  • Score: 16

7:08pm Thu 20 Feb 14

RedBen says...

Why not boycott the garage and go to MDS or Halfords Autos. Put them out of business.
Why not boycott the garage and go to MDS or Halfords Autos. Put them out of business. RedBen
  • Score: 19

8:25pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Andrew_L says...

Well make manor way into a cpz and set times. we are bringing this issue up in the next Elstree & Borehamwood residents association meeting
Well make manor way into a cpz and set times. we are bringing this issue up in the next Elstree & Borehamwood residents association meeting Andrew_L
  • Score: 17

2:41am Fri 21 Feb 14

watfordman says...

he also parks vans on organ hall estate and studio way and council owned car park three ways community centre , yet a no commercial vehicles sign is posted in the car park of three ways car park. park on his drive in the middle of manor way he has load of space on his double drive
he also parks vans on organ hall estate and studio way and council owned car park three ways community centre , yet a no commercial vehicles sign is posted in the car park of three ways car park. park on his drive in the middle of manor way he has load of space on his double drive watfordman
  • Score: 30

10:55am Fri 21 Feb 14

arturon says...

This would never be allowed to happen in Elstree, Radlett or Bushey Heath
This would never be allowed to happen in Elstree, Radlett or Bushey Heath arturon
  • Score: 19

6:51pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Believe in better says...

If you put CPZ in place then those that work in Manor Way still won't be able to park. The law states that if your vehicle is taxed and insured then you have the right to park on the public highway except where restrictions are in place. I would suggest that a number of these vehicles are not actually road worthy and I myself returned a vehicle that I had hired, and demanded my money back before I used it because of the condition it was in. Of course if he has his own MOT testing centre, then he can churn out test certificates to his hearts delight? There will need to be a change in the law before the council can stop him parking his taxed and insured vehicles on the public highway.
If you put CPZ in place then those that work in Manor Way still won't be able to park. The law states that if your vehicle is taxed and insured then you have the right to park on the public highway except where restrictions are in place. I would suggest that a number of these vehicles are not actually road worthy and I myself returned a vehicle that I had hired, and demanded my money back before I used it because of the condition it was in. Of course if he has his own MOT testing centre, then he can churn out test certificates to his hearts delight? There will need to be a change in the law before the council can stop him parking his taxed and insured vehicles on the public highway. Believe in better
  • Score: 12

7:50pm Sat 22 Feb 14

EP Herts says...

arturon wrote:
This would never be allowed to happen in Elstree, Radlett or Bushey Heath
No we have to pay £400 a year to park 1 car in Bushey !
[quote][p][bold]arturon[/bold] wrote: This would never be allowed to happen in Elstree, Radlett or Bushey Heath[/p][/quote]No we have to pay £400 a year to park 1 car in Bushey ! EP Herts
  • Score: 5

9:09pm Sun 23 Feb 14

rogerp88 says...

Further to the comments I made to a Borehamwood Times reporter the other day published above please note that Goodman has a nasty habit of parking one or two vehicles on the grass outside his own house on Manor Way. Usually with a For Sale on them . This is illegal, yet the ther council have failed miserably to do anything about this practice. Goodman clearly believes he can take the public and the councils, Borehamwood and Hertsmere C. C.
for mugs and is laughing at us all. He is not only arrogant but an abusive and immoral person with no concern for the grief and aggrevation that he is causing to residents and workers in the Manor Way area. Something seriously needs to be done about this man and his use of Borehamwood roads for parking and advertising his business.
Further to the comments I made to a Borehamwood Times reporter the other day published above please note that Goodman has a nasty habit of parking one or two vehicles on the grass outside his own house on Manor Way. Usually with a For Sale on them . This is illegal, yet the ther council have failed miserably to do anything about this practice. Goodman clearly believes he can take the public and the councils, Borehamwood and Hertsmere C. C. for mugs and is laughing at us all. He is not only arrogant but an abusive and immoral person with no concern for the grief and aggrevation that he is causing to residents and workers in the Manor Way area. Something seriously needs to be done about this man and his use of Borehamwood roads for parking and advertising his business. rogerp88
  • Score: 16

6:56pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Anon E Mouse says...

http://archive.defra
.gov.uk/environment/
quality/local/legisl
ation/cnea/documents
/vehicles.pdf

Page 13
Definition of ‘abandoned’
27 There is no legal definition of
‘abandoned’ and this guidance does
not seek to create one. Local authority
officers have the freedom to use their
discretion when making decisions
on abandonment.
28 However, the following characteristics
are generally common to abandoned
vehicles and one or a combination
of the following could assist a local
authority officer in making a decision
on abandonment.
(a) Untaxed, with
(b) No current vehicle keeper on
the Driver and Vehicle Licensing
Agency’s (DVLA) record
(c) Stationary for a significant
amount of time
http://archive.defra .gov.uk/environment/ quality/local/legisl ation/cnea/documents /vehicles.pdf Page 13 Definition of ‘abandoned’ 27 There is no legal definition of ‘abandoned’ and this guidance does not seek to create one. Local authority officers have the freedom to use their discretion when making decisions on abandonment. 28 However, the following characteristics are generally common to abandoned vehicles and one or a combination of the following could assist a local authority officer in making a decision on abandonment. (a) Untaxed, with (b) No current vehicle keeper on the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency’s (DVLA) record (c) Stationary for a significant amount of time Anon E Mouse
  • Score: 4

10:29am Thu 27 Feb 14

Believe in better says...

I wonder if its possible to put a timed parking limit on the parking slots in the lower part of Manor Way? i.e. no parking between 10pm - 4am, except if you have a CPZ? Residents can have the CPZ limited to 2-3 per household. Workers in Manor Way wouldn't need to park overnight... And Goodmans would have to move his vehicles every night.... Just a thought....
I wonder if its possible to put a timed parking limit on the parking slots in the lower part of Manor Way? i.e. no parking between 10pm - 4am, except if you have a CPZ? Residents can have the CPZ limited to 2-3 per household. Workers in Manor Way wouldn't need to park overnight... And Goodmans would have to move his vehicles every night.... Just a thought.... Believe in better
  • Score: 2

3:25pm Fri 28 Feb 14

mr.taxpayer says...

I thought it was illegal to use the highway for business purposes? Surely using the road as a 'stockroom' for all these tatty heaps constitutes using it for business purposes, same as when a burger van parks on a roadside?

Either way, I certainly would never bring my cars to Goodmans Autos, the place looks like a right dive, and his cars are an eyesore. He can't have that many customers either as none of the cars or vans ever move.
I thought it was illegal to use the highway for business purposes? Surely using the road as a 'stockroom' for all these tatty heaps constitutes using it for business purposes, same as when a burger van parks on a roadside? Either way, I certainly would never bring my cars to Goodmans Autos, the place looks like a right dive, and his cars are an eyesore. He can't have that many customers either as none of the cars or vans ever move. mr.taxpayer
  • Score: 8

4:40pm Sun 2 Mar 14

stox says...

Why does Mr Neary think it's the councils responsibility to find him an alternative location to park his cars ? There is at least two private locations that are not a million miles from both Mr Nearys business and private residence where he could pay to store them, alternatively I'm sure most of them would be better stored at the top of a scrap heap.
Why does Mr Neary think it's the councils responsibility to find him an alternative location to park his cars ? There is at least two private locations that are not a million miles from both Mr Nearys business and private residence where he could pay to store them, alternatively I'm sure most of them would be better stored at the top of a scrap heap. stox
  • Score: 5

9:26am Sat 8 Mar 14

david Burcombe says...

Perhaps we can ask him to park his vehicles in the Civic car park and charge him accordingly or limit parking to two cars per house in Manor Way 0r the issue of permits to park in the road one permit per person
Perhaps we can ask him to park his vehicles in the Civic car park and charge him accordingly or limit parking to two cars per house in Manor Way 0r the issue of permits to park in the road one permit per person david Burcombe
  • Score: 3

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