Kosher bakery's application to open in Borehamwood high street meets opposition from traders

Kosher bakery Mr Baker hopes to open their new restaurant at 33 and 35 Shenley Road, Borehamwood

Kosher bakery Mr Baker hopes to open their new restaurant at 33 and 35 Shenley Road, Borehamwood

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A new store is hoping to open its doors in Borehamwood’s “ghost town” later this year, but has faced criticism from a number of traders.

Kosher bakery Mr Baker hopes to open a new restaurant in Shenley Road, Borehamwood - an area that Mayor Paul Morris has pledged to revamp from its ghost-town state.

The current properties, at 33 and 35 Shenley Road, have been vacant for some time, but the restuarant has now submitted an application to change one building from a retail site to a restaurant.

The two stores will be given a new shop front, and a single storey extension will be put up at the back of the property.

However some traders have claimed that the applications have come too late, suggesting that major work is already being carried out at the property.

Hertsmere Borough Council has been informed of the work allegedly being undertaken at the premises and a planning enforcement investigation is on-going.

In a recent site visit, a planning officer told workers that all construction at the property must cease until planning matters have been clarified by the council.

The owners have been in contact with the planning department and have submitted a “substantial” amount of information in order to help the authorities effectively handle the matter.

Neighbouring residents and traders are now being given the opportunity to add their comments on the applications before a decision is made by July 14.

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5:53pm Fri 6 Jun 14

david Burcombe says...

Too many restaurants in that part of town it is stupid to have so many eating establishmrnts. Be like westcliffe 10 restaursnts sll in a row. Only difference is westcliffe is a seaside town with pasng trade not so in that part of the village.of borehsmwood we have a high street littered with hair salons and eating houses
Too many restaurants in that part of town it is stupid to have so many eating establishmrnts. Be like westcliffe 10 restaursnts sll in a row. Only difference is westcliffe is a seaside town with pasng trade not so in that part of the village.of borehsmwood we have a high street littered with hair salons and eating houses david Burcombe
  • Score: -14

12:54am Mon 9 Jun 14

Sasha12 says...

Ohhhhh please come on really another restaurant? ? Seriously we need shops not restaurant hairdresser barber coffee shop polish delis etc etc etc what about shoe shops uniform suppliers butchers vegetarian fishmonger cheese shop can you not tell we are all sick to the back teeth of the same shops in the town it may fill the shops up pay you the rent but the community is sick to the back teeth of the same things listen to us!!
Ohhhhh please come on really another restaurant? ? Seriously we need shops not restaurant hairdresser barber coffee shop polish delis etc etc etc what about shoe shops uniform suppliers butchers vegetarian fishmonger cheese shop can you not tell we are all sick to the back teeth of the same shops in the town it may fill the shops up pay you the rent but the community is sick to the back teeth of the same things listen to us!! Sasha12
  • Score: -5

9:21am Mon 9 Jun 14

bozzza says...

Sasha, no-one is stopping shoe shops, fishmongers or cheese shops from opening shops on the high street. The reason they aren't opening any though is because the year is 2014, not 1934. All around the country high street shops are dying because they offer products that people choose to buy from Supermarkets. In order for a high street to thrive, shops must offer products that are different to a supermarket offering - so that could be a high quality bakery/patisserie or specialist delicatessens such as the Polish or Kosher ones - and of course hair dressers and restaurants. If a cheese shop or fishmongers opened, people would not go to it in enough numbers with enough regularity to stop it from closing. We can't turn the clock back. People would rather shop at supermarkets for their low cost products and convenience. High streets need to find different types of shops to survive
Sasha, no-one is stopping shoe shops, fishmongers or cheese shops from opening shops on the high street. The reason they aren't opening any though is because the year is 2014, not 1934. All around the country high street shops are dying because they offer products that people choose to buy from Supermarkets. In order for a high street to thrive, shops must offer products that are different to a supermarket offering - so that could be a high quality bakery/patisserie or specialist delicatessens such as the Polish or Kosher ones - and of course hair dressers and restaurants. If a cheese shop or fishmongers opened, people would not go to it in enough numbers with enough regularity to stop it from closing. We can't turn the clock back. People would rather shop at supermarkets for their low cost products and convenience. High streets need to find different types of shops to survive bozzza
  • Score: 26

12:13pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Reader (R) says...

Tesco cater very well for anyone wanting Polish/Kosher products.
Tesco cater very well for anyone wanting Polish/Kosher products. Reader (R)
  • Score: -16

12:52pm Mon 9 Jun 14

bozzza says...

Well obviously not if those shops are doing well and more are planning to open.

Not sure what shops you are expecting to see on the high street that aren't there.

Borehamwood is excellent for shopping - we have all those shops in the Boulevard, 2 massive supermarkets, the High Street, places like the new Wickes development and screwfix for DIY. We've got some great specialist shops like the Polish deli's and kosher butchers and bakeries (those Jews make some amazing breads - so much better than our Greggs). A kosher bakery is not just for our Jewish friends - we'd all make use of it.

The only thing Borehamwood lacks in my opinion is decent quality eateries like you would get in Mill Hill or Radlett. So I say more restaurants, but nice ones!
Well obviously not if those shops are doing well and more are planning to open. Not sure what shops you are expecting to see on the high street that aren't there. Borehamwood is excellent for shopping - we have all those shops in the Boulevard, 2 massive supermarkets, the High Street, places like the new Wickes development and screwfix for DIY. We've got some great specialist shops like the Polish deli's and kosher butchers and bakeries (those Jews make some amazing breads - so much better than our Greggs). A kosher bakery is not just for our Jewish friends - we'd all make use of it. The only thing Borehamwood lacks in my opinion is decent quality eateries like you would get in Mill Hill or Radlett. So I say more restaurants, but nice ones! bozzza
  • Score: 23

2:14pm Mon 9 Jun 14

EBRA2013 says...

Sasha12 wrote:
Ohhhhh please come on really another restaurant? ? Seriously we need shops not restaurant hairdresser barber coffee shop polish delis etc etc etc what about shoe shops uniform suppliers butchers vegetarian fishmonger cheese shop can you not tell we are all sick to the back teeth of the same shops in the town it may fill the shops up pay you the rent but the community is sick to the back teeth of the same things listen to us!!
Please note this is note a restaurant its a bakers with cafe. Borehamwood Times have got this information incorrect again. It probably be similar to the outlet in Hendon on Brent Street. The Hendon outlet does amazing well and the food is very good.

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[quote][p][bold]Sasha12[/bold] wrote: Ohhhhh please come on really another restaurant? ? Seriously we need shops not restaurant hairdresser barber coffee shop polish delis etc etc etc what about shoe shops uniform suppliers butchers vegetarian fishmonger cheese shop can you not tell we are all sick to the back teeth of the same shops in the town it may fill the shops up pay you the rent but the community is sick to the back teeth of the same things listen to us!![/p][/quote]Please note this is note a restaurant its a bakers with cafe. Borehamwood Times have got this information incorrect again. It probably be similar to the outlet in Hendon on Brent Street. The Hendon outlet does amazing well and the food is very good. https://www.facebook .com/MrBakerExpress http://www.tripadvis or.co.uk/ShowUserRev iews-g186338-d434027 8-r185115071-Mr_Bake r-London_England.htm l EBRA2013
  • Score: 12

2:15pm Mon 9 Jun 14

EBRA2013 says...

Please note this is not a restaurant its a bakers with cafe
Please note this is not a restaurant its a bakers with cafe EBRA2013
  • Score: 3

10:34am Thu 12 Jun 14

david Burcombe says...

bozzza wrote:
Well obviously not if those shops are doing well and more are planning to open.

Not sure what shops you are expecting to see on the high street that aren't there.

Borehamwood is excellent for shopping - we have all those shops in the Boulevard, 2 massive supermarkets, the High Street, places like the new Wickes development and screwfix for DIY. We've got some great specialist shops like the Polish deli's and kosher butchers and bakeries (those Jews make some amazing breads - so much better than our Greggs). A kosher bakery is not just for our Jewish friends - we'd all make use of it.

The only thing Borehamwood lacks in my opinion is decent quality eateries like you would get in Mill Hill or Radlett. So I say more restaurants, but nice ones!
Come on too many restaurants eating houses between the station and Furzhill road 16 i think sorry if i have under estimated
[quote][p][bold]bozzza[/bold] wrote: Well obviously not if those shops are doing well and more are planning to open. Not sure what shops you are expecting to see on the high street that aren't there. Borehamwood is excellent for shopping - we have all those shops in the Boulevard, 2 massive supermarkets, the High Street, places like the new Wickes development and screwfix for DIY. We've got some great specialist shops like the Polish deli's and kosher butchers and bakeries (those Jews make some amazing breads - so much better than our Greggs). A kosher bakery is not just for our Jewish friends - we'd all make use of it. The only thing Borehamwood lacks in my opinion is decent quality eateries like you would get in Mill Hill or Radlett. So I say more restaurants, but nice ones![/p][/quote]Come on too many restaurants eating houses between the station and Furzhill road 16 i think sorry if i have under estimated david Burcombe
  • Score: 1

11:35am Thu 12 Jun 14

bozzza says...

I don't particularly feel that strongly about the number of eateries on that side of Borehamwood - They are obviously in great demand though! I personally wish they were of a little higher quality though (no offense to any frequenters of these take-aways) I think the high street (and borehamwood) would benefit from going a little more up-market, which is the reason I am looking forward to a high quality bakery
I don't particularly feel that strongly about the number of eateries on that side of Borehamwood - They are obviously in great demand though! I personally wish they were of a little higher quality though (no offense to any frequenters of these take-aways) I think the high street (and borehamwood) would benefit from going a little more up-market, which is the reason I am looking forward to a high quality bakery bozzza
  • Score: 5

12:03pm Thu 12 Jun 14

bozzza says...

also David, I think you must be including things like butchers and delicatessen in that list - they are not all cafe/restaurants/tak
eaways - but wouldnt it be nice if instead of a ghost town, borehamwood looked like this https://www.google.c
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,0.693465,3a,75y,36.
74h,81.17t/data=!3m4
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also David, I think you must be including things like butchers and delicatessen in that list - they are not all cafe/restaurants/tak eaways - but wouldnt it be nice if instead of a ghost town, borehamwood looked like this https://www.google.c o.uk/maps/@51.534984 ,0.693465,3a,75y,36. 74h,81.17t/data=!3m4 !1e1!3m2!1srIkkVXwlo 1R4AxvBOugCxw!2e0!6m 1!1e1 bozzza
  • Score: 1

2:22pm Thu 12 Jun 14

poshiesymons says...

people seem to think that borehamwood is full of well off people who can afford to eat at high class eateries....the truth is the majority of residents in borehamwood hardly have any money at all . and to some , sams chicken,mcdonadls nandos etc are a luxury .
people seem to think that borehamwood is full of well off people who can afford to eat at high class eateries....the truth is the majority of residents in borehamwood hardly have any money at all . and to some , sams chicken,mcdonadls nandos etc are a luxury . poshiesymons
  • Score: 5

2:51pm Thu 12 Jun 14

bozzza says...

you are right poshie - and I love a dirty KFC as much as the next man - but that doesn't stop me also wishing that the empty shops in the ghost town could be better class eateries.

Borehamwood often feels very much like a divided town. There is the native population, and economic migrants from around the UK (like me) and migrants from overseas and those who have moved here as it is a an excellent commuter town with easy access to London (see the number of budget hotels on Rowley Lane), and a growing Jewish population and the shops also need to reflect that Borehamwood has changed.

I suspect some of the sneering (not from you) at Polish delis or Kosher shops is more of general complaint that the old Borehamwood has changed forever.
you are right poshie - and I love a dirty KFC as much as the next man - but that doesn't stop me also wishing that the empty shops in the ghost town could be better class eateries. Borehamwood often feels very much like a divided town. There is the native population, and economic migrants from around the UK (like me) and migrants from overseas and those who have moved here as it is a an excellent commuter town with easy access to London (see the number of budget hotels on Rowley Lane), and a growing Jewish population and the shops also need to reflect that Borehamwood has changed. I suspect some of the sneering (not from you) at Polish delis or Kosher shops is more of general complaint that the old Borehamwood has changed forever. bozzza
  • Score: 5

9:50am Wed 18 Jun 14

Joseph Davis says...

Another Kosher Bakery??!! Madness!!
There is already one just a few doors down selling exactly the same thing, what on earth is the point of throwing away an A1 License for yet another food outlet?!
Surely we could do better than this?
Only now are those units being made available, that's why they have been empty for so long...give it a few months and for sure we will get a useful retail unit opening there.
Not another restaurant...it's madness!
Besides which, there's no way enough business for both...we are not Hendon!! One of them will be forced to close and them we are back to square one anyway...
Another Kosher Bakery??!! Madness!! There is already one just a few doors down selling exactly the same thing, what on earth is the point of throwing away an A1 License for yet another food outlet?! Surely we could do better than this? Only now are those units being made available, that's why they have been empty for so long...give it a few months and for sure we will get a useful retail unit opening there. Not another restaurant...it's madness! Besides which, there's no way enough business for both...we are not Hendon!! One of them will be forced to close and them we are back to square one anyway... Joseph Davis
  • Score: 1

3:06pm Thu 19 Jun 14

sined says...

Don't quite no were" ghost town" comes from, iv'e lived here all my life
It is far from a ghost town, It must be an outsiders comment.
Don't quite no were" ghost town" comes from, iv'e lived here all my life It is far from a ghost town, It must be an outsiders comment. sined
  • Score: 1

3:39pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Edgar de Jarnac says...

Shenley Road lost its appeal for most traditional independent retailers years ago, but the place certainly isn't dead yet. My wife and I regularly visit Borehamwood (from Mill Hill) to browse its charity shops, to buy odd items in stores such as Iceland, Lidl and Tesco, and to visit some of the speciality outlets that are still hanging on, such as The Wool Shop and excellent locksmiths, jewellers and photographers.

However, since Shenley Road already features at least seven charity shops (Age UK, Cancer Research UK, All Aboard, The Peace Hospice, British Heart Foundation, Norwood and Barnardos), it is presumably now running out of charities willing to take over any further retail units that become vacant. (The only major charity still absent is Oxfam, which I no long support because of its antisemitic political stance.)

But what's the problem? Surely it's better to see another kosher bakery and restaurant than yet another empty shop unit?
Shenley Road lost its appeal for most traditional independent retailers years ago, but the place certainly isn't dead yet. My wife and I regularly visit Borehamwood (from Mill Hill) to browse its charity shops, to buy odd items in stores such as Iceland, Lidl and Tesco, and to visit some of the speciality outlets that are still hanging on, such as The Wool Shop and excellent locksmiths, jewellers and photographers. However, since Shenley Road already features at least seven charity shops (Age UK, Cancer Research UK, All Aboard, The Peace Hospice, British Heart Foundation, Norwood and Barnardos), it is presumably now running out of charities willing to take over any further retail units that become vacant. (The only major charity still absent is Oxfam, which I no long support because of its antisemitic political stance.) But what's the problem? Surely it's better to see another kosher bakery and restaurant than yet another empty shop unit? Edgar de Jarnac
  • Score: 0

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