POLL: Petition against parking changes to Borehamwood Shopping Park

Borehamwood Times: Mayor Paul Morris fears the parking rules could put his scheme to revive the high street in jeapordy Mayor Paul Morris fears the parking rules could put his scheme to revive the high street in jeapordy

A petition against “crazy and bizarre” parking rules amassed more than 400 signatures in less than a day.

Borehamwood Shopping Park, in Theobold Street, now only gives shoppers two hours' free parking.

Previously, motorists were allowed to park in the area for three hours a day - but the changes were introduced on Wednesday without warning.

The decision, made by shopping park owners Jones LaSalle, has provoked fury among shoppers and motorists.

The online petition was launched by the Elstree & Borehamwood Residents Association yesterday evening, but had already reached 423 signatures by 5.30pm on Friday.

Nearby Shenley Road is notorious for its empty shops - but many say the cut to free parking time will put them off shopping in the area.

Mayor of Hertsmere Councillor Paul Morris has been leading a campaign to revive the “ghost town” high street - but fears the new scheme could leave his project in jeopardy.

He said: “I believe this will be severely detrimental to the whole community in Shenley Road. They are creating an environment that says you can only park here if you’re shopping in our park.

“But they ought to have a social conscience as well as a commercial conscience on the impact of their facility within the community.

“It’s going to create an environment where people think they are better off going to Watford or Brent Cross, or other less intrusive retail areas.”

Debenhams is also due to open in the shopping park later this year - but drivers say they will be put off visiting the new store to avoid accidentally breaking the new rules.

Deborah Fisher, of Anthony Road, said: “It’s bizarre, it’s crazy. There are always spaces available in the car park. The fact that it’s been pushed through without consultation is wrong.”

“It won’t give people enough time to shop leisurely and use the facilities there - two hours isn’t enough time for people to have a browse and a cup of coffee.

“The impact isn’t just on the customer who will be inconvenienced, it will be on the businesses too.”

People are also now banned from returning to the car park within three hours of leaving on the same day, no matter how long they have parked for.

Many people blame car park managers Parking Eye - but they were instructed to reduce the time limit by shopping park owners Jones LaSalle.

The Borehamwood Times is awaiting a comment from Jones LaSalle.

To sign the petition, click here.

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10:04pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Blood Resident says...

Why aren't the reporters challenging the mayor on comments such as this... What plan??? He came in the paper about 2 years ago saying he was about to launch some improvements to the village. We have yet to see any progress at all. What are the council doing about it? Shenley Road looks like a slum.
Why aren't the reporters challenging the mayor on comments such as this... What plan??? He came in the paper about 2 years ago saying he was about to launch some improvements to the village. We have yet to see any progress at all. What are the council doing about it? Shenley Road looks like a slum. Blood Resident
  • Score: 11

11:54am Sat 12 Apr 14

david Burcombe says...

This is a private owned company and they can do what they like. It will reflect on the businesses to the extent that a recent poll indicated if this 2 hour parking restriction is implemented 90% of those that voted said they would no longer shop in Borehamwood making it into a ghost town.
This is a private owned company and they can do what they like. It will reflect on the businesses to the extent that a recent poll indicated if this 2 hour parking restriction is implemented 90% of those that voted said they would no longer shop in Borehamwood making it into a ghost town. david Burcombe
  • Score: 2

12:45pm Sat 12 Apr 14

TFEB says...

Maybe their next plan is to introduce charging for those who want to stay longer?
Maybe their next plan is to introduce charging for those who want to stay longer? TFEB
  • Score: 1

3:30pm Sat 12 Apr 14

david Burcombe says...

If you get a ticket on your windscreen or through the post, and you think that it is unfair, for example, you had a good reason for staying over the time you had paid for, then you should contact the parking operator, giving your reasons and asking them to withdraw the ticket. You could also approach the private company with an interest in the car park, for example, the supermarket whose car park you had parked in, and ask them to withdraw the ticket.

If you get a ticket and you don’t think you should have to pay, you can decide not to pay and not to reply to the parking operator. It is possible that the parking operator will take enforcement action in order to recover the charge although in practice a threat of this nature may not be followed through as the amount of money being demanded is usually quite small. A parking operator has no power to recover a parking charge without first taking court action. The company may continue to send requests to pay and you can continue to ignore these unless they decide to take you to the small claims court. If the parking operator does take you to court, you may be able to defend the action, for example, on the grounds that you did not park in breach of the parking rules and/or that the fee being demanded is unreasonably high.

If the company keeps contacting you, you can ask them to stop harassing you. If the company behaves badly, you can also report to this to the landowner or to the British Parking Association if the company is a member.

If the company is a member of the British Parking Association, their procedures can be followed to complain against the parking ticket. Any member of the BPA should wait 28 days before sending a final demand.
If you get a ticket on your windscreen or through the post, and you think that it is unfair, for example, you had a good reason for staying over the time you had paid for, then you should contact the parking operator, giving your reasons and asking them to withdraw the ticket. You could also approach the private company with an interest in the car park, for example, the supermarket whose car park you had parked in, and ask them to withdraw the ticket. If you get a ticket and you don’t think you should have to pay, you can decide not to pay and not to reply to the parking operator. It is possible that the parking operator will take enforcement action in order to recover the charge although in practice a threat of this nature may not be followed through as the amount of money being demanded is usually quite small. A parking operator has no power to recover a parking charge without first taking court action. The company may continue to send requests to pay and you can continue to ignore these unless they decide to take you to the small claims court. If the parking operator does take you to court, you may be able to defend the action, for example, on the grounds that you did not park in breach of the parking rules and/or that the fee being demanded is unreasonably high. If the company keeps contacting you, you can ask them to stop harassing you. If the company behaves badly, you can also report to this to the landowner or to the British Parking Association if the company is a member. If the company is a member of the British Parking Association, their procedures can be followed to complain against the parking ticket. Any member of the BPA should wait 28 days before sending a final demand. david Burcombe
  • Score: 1

11:03am Sun 13 Apr 14

Frank Ward says...

While the advice from David Burcombe to motorists to prevaricate in accepting a fine for extended parking in the Borehamwood Shopping Park even to the point of receiving a summons to attend the Small Claims Court for non-payment may appeal to some, the aggregate total stress, especially for the elderly and costs for others in taking time off work may prove to be a disincentive for most?
The planning application submitted to Hertsmere Borough Council by the developers for the creation of the Shopping Park may only have been approved providing this proved to be an asset to the community?
Consequently there may have been in the planning approval granted by Hertsmere Borough Council a caveat to prevent and protect the public use being subjected to exploitation?
UKIP will submit a Freedom of Information application to Hertsmere Borough Council to flush out this information.
In the event this proves to be of no value then the users of the Shopping Park may require to consider imposing their own Boycott.?
Frank Ward
Chairman
Hertsmere UKIP
While the advice from David Burcombe to motorists to prevaricate in accepting a fine for extended parking in the Borehamwood Shopping Park even to the point of receiving a summons to attend the Small Claims Court for non-payment may appeal to some, the aggregate total stress, especially for the elderly and costs for others in taking time off work may prove to be a disincentive for most? The planning application submitted to Hertsmere Borough Council by the developers for the creation of the Shopping Park may only have been approved providing this proved to be an asset to the community? Consequently there may have been in the planning approval granted by Hertsmere Borough Council a caveat to prevent and protect the public use being subjected to exploitation? UKIP will submit a Freedom of Information application to Hertsmere Borough Council to flush out this information. In the event this proves to be of no value then the users of the Shopping Park may require to consider imposing their own Boycott.? Frank Ward Chairman Hertsmere UKIP Frank Ward
  • Score: -1

3:12pm Sun 13 Apr 14

charliemartin says...

The reason they have introduced the 2 hour limit is simple, Parking Eye LTD will make a lot more unlawful money. Anyone who gets an unlawful fine should appeal to POPLA, where 99% of fines get dismissed, and if they get you to court then they will lose, as they are acting outside of the Law, Judges are getting wise. Northumbria Health Care Tust have just cancelled all their contracts with parking eye, they are all over the news

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Just look at the Parking Prankster Blog

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The reason they have introduced the 2 hour limit is simple, Parking Eye LTD will make a lot more unlawful money. Anyone who gets an unlawful fine should appeal to POPLA, where 99% of fines get dismissed, and if they get you to court then they will lose, as they are acting outside of the Law, Judges are getting wise. Northumbria Health Care Tust have just cancelled all their contracts with parking eye, they are all over the news http://www.theguardi an.com/money/2014/ap r/12/parkingeye-fine -penalty-dispute-fig ht Just look at the Parking Prankster Blog http://parking-prank ster.blogspot.co.uk charliemartin
  • Score: 3

6:52pm Mon 14 Apr 14

BWood_Horn says...

What ParkingEye (PE) can do is ask you to re-imburse them for losses that they have incurred, for you overstaying the 2hr limit. Now, in a "free" car park the loss incurred by PE is "zero". Therefore, you owe them nothing, but you have to inform them of this.

Also "...Many people blame car park managers Parking Eye - but they were instructed to reduce the time limit by shopping park owners Jones LaSalle..." - this is a lie. PE "buy" the parking management rights from the owners. All these private parking companies are just glorified debt collection agencies - with very few legal powers to do anything other than bully and threaten people.
What ParkingEye (PE) can do is ask you to re-imburse them for losses that they have incurred, for you overstaying the 2hr limit. Now, in a "free" car park the loss incurred by PE is "zero". Therefore, you owe them nothing, but you have to inform them of this. Also "...Many people blame car park managers Parking Eye - but they were instructed to reduce the time limit by shopping park owners Jones LaSalle..." - this is a lie. PE "buy" the parking management rights from the owners. All these private parking companies are just glorified debt collection agencies - with very few legal powers to do anything other than bully and threaten people. BWood_Horn
  • Score: 2

7:27pm Thu 17 Apr 14

kelvin says...

It took me 30 mins to park down there today...Does this mean I only get An hour and a half to shop before the maggots slap a fine on me??
It took me 30 mins to park down there today...Does this mean I only get An hour and a half to shop before the maggots slap a fine on me?? kelvin
  • Score: 0

10:06am Mon 21 Apr 14

Frank Ward says...

The Mayor of Hertsmere, Councillor Paul Morris while motivated with civic inspirations and laudable intentions would appear not to live in the real world of finance?
Jones Lasalle is a commercial enterprise with the only compelling objective to make money and even more money for their share holders by exploiting their investment in the Shopping Park and not the provision of a service to the community.
Unfortunately the Freedom of Information request registered by UKIP for access to the caveats within the original planning permission granted to develop the Shopping Park, in compliance with the legislation permits Hertsmere Borough Council with 20 working days prior to the obligation to respond.
When the weekends are aggregated to this period this may be almost 1 month from the date of the application?
However, during this period any one of the thirty nine Councillors within Hertsmere, especially those who claim to represent the voters of Elstree, Boreham Wood and Shenley and are most likely the users of the parking availability, have the authority to obtain access to this information within twenty fours have made no comment.
Why is the silence from our collected group of elected members getting louder everyday?
Frank Ward
Chairman
Hertsmere UKIP
The Mayor of Hertsmere, Councillor Paul Morris while motivated with civic inspirations and laudable intentions would appear not to live in the real world of finance? Jones Lasalle is a commercial enterprise with the only compelling objective to make money and even more money for their share holders by exploiting their investment in the Shopping Park and not the provision of a service to the community. Unfortunately the Freedom of Information request registered by UKIP for access to the caveats within the original planning permission granted to develop the Shopping Park, in compliance with the legislation permits Hertsmere Borough Council with 20 working days prior to the obligation to respond. When the weekends are aggregated to this period this may be almost 1 month from the date of the application? However, during this period any one of the thirty nine Councillors within Hertsmere, especially those who claim to represent the voters of Elstree, Boreham Wood and Shenley and are most likely the users of the parking availability, have the authority to obtain access to this information within twenty fours have made no comment. Why is the silence from our collected group of elected members getting louder everyday? Frank Ward Chairman Hertsmere UKIP Frank Ward
  • Score: 1

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