Frank Ward criticises newly founded Elstree and Borehamwood Residents' Association

Borehamwood Times: Frank Ward at last night's meeting Frank Ward at last night's meeting

The leader of Hertsmere UKIP has condemned a new residents association as inadequate and badly run.

Frank Ward, who is on the committee of the Elstree and Borehamwood Residents' Association, said it was not “working the way I want it to”.

However the association's chairman Andrew Lewis said the group was only in its infancy and it was not up to Mr Ward to decide how it worked.

Speaking at last night’s meeting at the Threeways Community Centre in Arundel Drive in Borehamwood, Mr Ward criticised the way chairman Andrew Lewis hosted the association’s second public meeting earlier this month.

The former councillor said Mr Lewis gave too much floor space to the chairman of Governors of Hertswood Academy, Graham Taylor to explain why the school needed to demolish and rebuild the Ark Theatre.

He said: “The association is not tried and it is not tested. I’m afraid Mr Lewis does not impress me with his leadership as a chairman.

“The issues need to be more focused, at the moment they’re talking about a lot of things.

“They spend too much time talking about speed humps and not about things that matter such as overdevelopment in Borehamwood.”

However Councillor Richard Butler, who also attended the residents’ association meeting, said Mr Ward was being unfair in criticising an association only in its infancy.

He said: “Remember it’s a new born baby, it won’t start walking and talking straight away, but it is addressing the concerns of residents and it will be a valuable link with the council. Andrew Lewis is doing a great job.”

Mr Ward said he was part of the association as Frank Ward, a member of public, not as Frank Ward, chairman of Hertsmere UKIP.

But other councillors said in order to work as a voice for the people, no active members of any political body should be involved in the committee and said they were worried Mr Ward would try to appropriate it.

Councillor Sandra Parnell said: “Having a political person on the association will spoil it.”

Mr Lewis was not present at the meeting, but he said afterwards Mr Ward’s comments had been unfair and unjust.

He said: “We only started at the end of November and are just getting ourselves together. Does he expect us to run before he can walk?”

Mr Lewis defended his decision to allow Mr Taylor to speak for so long as the topic of discussion had been demolishing Hertswood Academy and the Ark Theatre, and he wanted to give Mr Taylor the chance to explain himself.

Mr Lewis added: “I am extremely upset and distressed about Mr Ward’s comments. It is not him who decides how the association works but us as a group of people.

“We’re not political and if he thinks he can make it a mouthpiece of UKIP, then we don’t want him.”

Mr Lewis said he would consult with other members of the association about Mr Ward’s future on the committee.

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4:00pm Thu 30 Jan 14

hellraiser says...

Well surprise surprise Borehamwood is waking up to the motives of a representative of an organisation containing extreme and inconsistent views and which even according to its leader Mr Farage has its fair share of eccentric kranks some of whom have had to be disowned or expelled.

Well done to the Residents Association and all the counsellors at that meeting for sticking to the point of how we can practically reconcile development with education and the arts and a courteous audience as to Graham Taylor is a sign of a healthy public life,
Well surprise surprise Borehamwood is waking up to the motives of a representative of an organisation containing extreme and inconsistent views and which even according to its leader Mr Farage has its fair share of eccentric kranks some of whom have had to be disowned or expelled. Well done to the Residents Association and all the counsellors at that meeting for sticking to the point of how we can practically reconcile development with education and the arts and a courteous audience as to Graham Taylor is a sign of a healthy public life, hellraiser

6:28pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Ms H says...

Mr Ward where were you when Andy Lewis launched the petition which spurred on two public meetings at Hertsmere Borough Council with regards to Isopad House??

Because the Residents Association isn't the FRANK WARD show and not “working the way I want it to” it's not fit for purpose then? WRONG! From one small public meeting (Not including the inception of EBRA in Chambers at HBC) which attracted a very good turn out considering the only advertising done was via social media, here and word of mouth, Andy and his team are heading in the right direction.

Acorns and Oaks Mr Ward, rearrange into a well known saying or phrase!!
Mr Ward where were you when Andy Lewis launched the petition which spurred on two public meetings at Hertsmere Borough Council with regards to Isopad House?? Because the Residents Association isn't the FRANK WARD show and not “working the way I want it to” it's not fit for purpose then? WRONG! From one small public meeting (Not including the inception of EBRA in Chambers at HBC) which attracted a very good turn out considering the only advertising done was via social media, here and word of mouth, Andy and his team are heading in the right direction. Acorns and Oaks Mr Ward, rearrange into a well known saying or phrase!! Ms H

5:42pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Frank Ward says...

From the comments of both Hellrasier and Ms H and jointly eagerly exploiting the opportunity of anonymity they evidently lack the conviction and accountability for their opinion and have yet to discover that if you believe everything you read in the press you are more than likely to eat everything you see?
Taking comments out of context either purposely or unintentionally is nothing that should surprise many people who read national or local newspapers and may even explain why the Conservative Party, Labour Party and the Liberal Democrats are determined to impose a Charter that will end press freedom after a period of over three hundred years.
UKIP oppose this imposition that will end press freedom and the small risk of being misquoted or being maligned in the press hardly justifies the use of the proverbial hammer to crack a nut.
Two weeks ago I had a telephone conversation with Andrew Lewis during which we had very candid discussion about my intention to work with him and EBRA.
I advised him that residents within the community were concerned that their fear of the rapid changes within Boreham Wood were being ignored in preference to other matters of less concern which had appeared on the agenda of the previous meeting of EBRA.
The views expressed at the UKIP meeting by some Conservative Councillors that members of a political party should not be part of EBRA is hardly surprising.
The two Labour Councillors present who agreed with this proposition would also appear to have forgotten that when the Labour Party in Boreham Wood actually functioned and campaigned for the people against injustice within the community from women's rights to the removal of asbestos from social housing and numerous other issues these groups had members who were Councillors.
The Three Ways Community Association, General Management Committee had two members who were Councillors both Labour and Conservative.
Therefore, it begins to appear that their joint resentment is not about politicians on local groups but the fact that UKIP has infiltrated Hertsmere and Boreham Wood in particular and Conservative and Labour have closed ranks.( The enemy of my enemy must be my friend?)
Frank Ward
Chairman
Hertsmere UKIP
From the comments of both Hellrasier and Ms H and jointly eagerly exploiting the opportunity of anonymity they evidently lack the conviction and accountability for their opinion and have yet to discover that if you believe everything you read in the press you are more than likely to eat everything you see? Taking comments out of context either purposely or unintentionally is nothing that should surprise many people who read national or local newspapers and may even explain why the Conservative Party, Labour Party and the Liberal Democrats are determined to impose a Charter that will end press freedom after a period of over three hundred years. UKIP oppose this imposition that will end press freedom and the small risk of being misquoted or being maligned in the press hardly justifies the use of the proverbial hammer to crack a nut. Two weeks ago I had a telephone conversation with Andrew Lewis during which we had very candid discussion about my intention to work with him and EBRA. I advised him that residents within the community were concerned that their fear of the rapid changes within Boreham Wood were being ignored in preference to other matters of less concern which had appeared on the agenda of the previous meeting of EBRA. The views expressed at the UKIP meeting by some Conservative Councillors that members of a political party should not be part of EBRA is hardly surprising. The two Labour Councillors present who agreed with this proposition would also appear to have forgotten that when the Labour Party in Boreham Wood actually functioned and campaigned for the people against injustice within the community from women's rights to the removal of asbestos from social housing and numerous other issues these groups had members who were Councillors. The Three Ways Community Association, General Management Committee had two members who were Councillors both Labour and Conservative. Therefore, it begins to appear that their joint resentment is not about politicians on local groups but the fact that UKIP has infiltrated Hertsmere and Boreham Wood in particular and Conservative and Labour have closed ranks.( The enemy of my enemy must be my friend?) Frank Ward Chairman Hertsmere UKIP Frank Ward

10:44pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Believe in better says...

Oh dear... Frank Ward.... you really aren't making a very good case for convincing residents that UKIP are the way to go. I would suggest the tone of your reply to other peoples comments only go to demonstrate your contempt for other peoples point of view if it differs from your own... At the moment all you are saying is look at me... listen to me... another UKIP crank let loose on the community... You are not going to win votes by insulting the residents of Borehamwood & Elstree.
Oh dear... Frank Ward.... you really aren't making a very good case for convincing residents that UKIP are the way to go. I would suggest the tone of your reply to other peoples comments only go to demonstrate your contempt for other peoples point of view if it differs from your own... At the moment all you are saying is look at me... listen to me... another UKIP crank let loose on the community... You are not going to win votes by insulting the residents of Borehamwood & Elstree. Believe in better

11:51pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Ms H says...

Taking comments out of context? Really! *Curiously rubs chin* i read the news piece and heard from members of the public who attended your meeting Mr Ward and i believe Ruth has reported exactly what was said and they told me BEFORE this was even written!!
Taking comments out of context? Really! *Curiously rubs chin* i read the news piece and heard from members of the public who attended your meeting Mr Ward and i believe Ruth has reported exactly what was said and they told me BEFORE this was even written!! Ms H

12:24am Sat 1 Feb 14

Small John says...

For heaven's sake keep the politicians away from the residents association. If it is to function effectively it must be completely free from people with the private agendas and the secretive alliances that are shamelessly rife in local politics
The rot in local government started when political candidates replaced the independents who were, for the most part, motivated by a sense of public service rather the ability to impose party policies on the electorate. The parties moved in to represent their parties views rather than the interests of the mugs who elect, and (more bizarrely) re-elect them.
British voters have notoriously short memories. Kick 'em for three years and smile at 'em for six months and they think you're a friend.
For heaven's sake keep the politicians away from the residents association. If it is to function effectively it must be completely free from people with the private agendas and the secretive alliances that are shamelessly rife in local politics The rot in local government started when political candidates replaced the independents who were, for the most part, motivated by a sense of public service rather the ability to impose party policies on the electorate. The parties moved in to represent their parties views rather than the interests of the mugs who elect, and (more bizarrely) re-elect them. British voters have notoriously short memories. Kick 'em for three years and smile at 'em for six months and they think you're a friend. Small John

7:51am Sat 1 Feb 14

Reader (R) says...

"The Three Ways Community Association, General Management Committee had two members who were Councillors both Labour and Conservative"

And Frank, did YOU not bar these councillors from meetings as YOU saw their presence as counter productive.

UKIP might well have too readily accepted you as their local chairman but in doing so have lost my vote.
"The Three Ways Community Association, General Management Committee had two members who were Councillors both Labour and Conservative" And Frank, did YOU not bar these councillors from meetings as YOU saw their presence as counter productive. UKIP might well have too readily accepted you as their local chairman but in doing so have lost my vote. Reader (R)

3:39pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Frank Ward says...

The recent comments from Believe in Better again hiding behind a pseudonym may prove in reality to be just another suspect disgruntled Conservative or Labour Councillor fearing serial exposure.
B in B contributes nothing to a sensible and constructive debate about our community.
This usual brand of evidently confused comment about UKIP and myself in preference to examining the track record of those responsible for the over-development within our community indicates clearly that the reason for the comment is personal.
B in B has demeaned their keyboard status in making childish supercilious remarks about other individuals and name calling that is more common in a school playground.
This may require me to withdraw my previous assertion of B in B being a disgruntled Councillor to that of a disgruntled school pupil who at this time on a Sunday afternoon should be checking that homework is in order prior to returning to classroom on Monday morning.
Frank Ward
Chairman
Hertsmere UKIP
The recent comments from Believe in Better again hiding behind a pseudonym may prove in reality to be just another suspect disgruntled Conservative or Labour Councillor fearing serial exposure. B in B contributes nothing to a sensible and constructive debate about our community. This usual brand of evidently confused comment about UKIP and myself in preference to examining the track record of those responsible for the over-development within our community indicates clearly that the reason for the comment is personal. B in B has demeaned their keyboard status in making childish supercilious remarks about other individuals and name calling that is more common in a school playground. This may require me to withdraw my previous assertion of B in B being a disgruntled Councillor to that of a disgruntled school pupil who at this time on a Sunday afternoon should be checking that homework is in order prior to returning to classroom on Monday morning. Frank Ward Chairman Hertsmere UKIP Frank Ward

3:58pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Frank Ward says...

The comments from MS H another keyboard critic without an identity who may be just another disgruntled Councillor, claims to be aware of what took place at a meeting.
The notes taken by the Secretary of UKIP who was present at that meeting contain the comments which were omitted from the newspaper article and this amends the grammatical text of the dialogue which took place.
However, people tend to believe what they want and until those hiding behind pseudonyms are prepared to stand by their claims why should anybody take them seriously?
Frank Ward
Chairman
Hertsmere UKIP
The comments from MS H another keyboard critic without an identity who may be just another disgruntled Councillor, claims to be aware of what took place at a meeting. The notes taken by the Secretary of UKIP who was present at that meeting contain the comments which were omitted from the newspaper article and this amends the grammatical text of the dialogue which took place. However, people tend to believe what they want and until those hiding behind pseudonyms are prepared to stand by their claims why should anybody take them seriously? Frank Ward Chairman Hertsmere UKIP Frank Ward

4:38pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Frank Ward says...

Reader (R) comments about the Three Ways Community Centre ( TWCA) and my removal of two Councillors are ill-informed and inaccurate.
Councillors who were members of the General Management Committee (GMC) of TWCA were appointees of Hertsmere Borough Council ( HBC)l and may only be removed by that Authority.
During the period of nearly twenty years I represented HBC on the GMC there were no removals.
However, the confidence was such that Conservative controlled HBC granted nearly eight hundred thousand pounds to build a replacement Centre following my request.
The personal comment you make regarding my election as the Chairman of Hertsmere UKIP demeans your contribution.
The success of UKIP at the forthcoming elections will not be dependent on personal comments from individuals with your negative attitude but in a majority of thinking people within this country who resent the tidal flood of immigrants being welcomed by both Conservative and the previous Labour Governments and equally resent the rapid movement in becoming just another part of the United States of Europe.
Frank Ward
Chairman
Hertsmere UKIP
Reader (R) comments about the Three Ways Community Centre ( TWCA) and my removal of two Councillors are ill-informed and inaccurate. Councillors who were members of the General Management Committee (GMC) of TWCA were appointees of Hertsmere Borough Council ( HBC)l and may only be removed by that Authority. During the period of nearly twenty years I represented HBC on the GMC there were no removals. However, the confidence was such that Conservative controlled HBC granted nearly eight hundred thousand pounds to build a replacement Centre following my request. The personal comment you make regarding my election as the Chairman of Hertsmere UKIP demeans your contribution. The success of UKIP at the forthcoming elections will not be dependent on personal comments from individuals with your negative attitude but in a majority of thinking people within this country who resent the tidal flood of immigrants being welcomed by both Conservative and the previous Labour Governments and equally resent the rapid movement in becoming just another part of the United States of Europe. Frank Ward Chairman Hertsmere UKIP Frank Ward

4:10pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Reader (R) says...

Frank Ward wrote:
Reader (R) comments about the Three Ways Community Centre ( TWCA) and my removal of two Councillors are ill-informed and inaccurate.
Councillors who were members of the General Management Committee (GMC) of TWCA were appointees of Hertsmere Borough Council ( HBC)l and may only be removed by that Authority.
During the period of nearly twenty years I represented HBC on the GMC there were no removals.
However, the confidence was such that Conservative controlled HBC granted nearly eight hundred thousand pounds to build a replacement Centre following my request.
The personal comment you make regarding my election as the Chairman of Hertsmere UKIP demeans your contribution.
The success of UKIP at the forthcoming elections will not be dependent on personal comments from individuals with your negative attitude but in a majority of thinking people within this country who resent the tidal flood of immigrants being welcomed by both Conservative and the previous Labour Governments and equally resent the rapid movement in becoming just another part of the United States of Europe.
Frank Ward
Chairman
Hertsmere UKIP
Never once did I say you had councillors "removed" from the GMC, what I did say was that I seem to recall an incident when councillors were "barred" (prevented) from taking part in a meeting/s.

As for the funding requested from HBC, I shouldn't shout too loud about that. I should think that they grabbed that request with both hands. It would, and, indeed did give them total control of the running of the TWC in the end. Now it's run by Hertsmere leisure.

As for "demeaning" my contribution. I stand by that comment 110%.
[quote][p][bold]Frank Ward[/bold] wrote: Reader (R) comments about the Three Ways Community Centre ( TWCA) and my removal of two Councillors are ill-informed and inaccurate. Councillors who were members of the General Management Committee (GMC) of TWCA were appointees of Hertsmere Borough Council ( HBC)l and may only be removed by that Authority. During the period of nearly twenty years I represented HBC on the GMC there were no removals. However, the confidence was such that Conservative controlled HBC granted nearly eight hundred thousand pounds to build a replacement Centre following my request. The personal comment you make regarding my election as the Chairman of Hertsmere UKIP demeans your contribution. The success of UKIP at the forthcoming elections will not be dependent on personal comments from individuals with your negative attitude but in a majority of thinking people within this country who resent the tidal flood of immigrants being welcomed by both Conservative and the previous Labour Governments and equally resent the rapid movement in becoming just another part of the United States of Europe. Frank Ward Chairman Hertsmere UKIP[/p][/quote]Never once did I say you had councillors "removed" from the GMC, what I did say was that I seem to recall an incident when councillors were "barred" (prevented) from taking part in a meeting/s. As for the funding requested from HBC, I shouldn't shout too loud about that. I should think that they grabbed that request with both hands. It would, and, indeed did give them total control of the running of the TWC in the end. Now it's run by Hertsmere leisure. As for "demeaning" my contribution. I stand by that comment 110%. Reader (R)

12:49am Mon 10 Feb 14

Ms H says...

KEYBOARD CRITIC?? no Mr Ward just a voter within the borough!!
KEYBOARD CRITIC?? no Mr Ward just a voter within the borough!! Ms H

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