Proposals to demolish Directors Arms in Borehamwood for housing

The Directors Arms

The Directors Arms

First published in News Borehamwood Times: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

A Borehamwood pub could be demolished to make way for 26 new houses.

The Directors Arms in Ripon Way in Borehamwood has been earmarked by Hertsmere Borough Council officers as a possible site for development in its draft Site Allocations and Development Management Policies.

The document, which will be discussed at the council's Executive Committee meeting on Wednesday, allocates land for different types of development, such as housing and employment.

The new buildings would be mixture of flats and houses. Council officers have said “quality design” is needed as it is a “prominent” corner plot. The tallest buildings would be four storeys high, facing the roundabout.

Other sites identified for housing in the document include 276 flats and houses, some of which would be sheltered accommodation, to be built on Thrift Farm Lane on land currently occupied by Hertswood Academy.

A further 43 flats would be built on the Gas Holders site in Station Road, which may be up to four storeys high.

The document also has plans for five flats and houses on land to the south of Elstree and Borehamwood Station, which would be up to three storeys high.

The Executive committee will decide whether to approve the draft Site Allocations and Development Management Policies document for a public consultation.

Any consultation would then begin in February and would last six weeks. Amendments would be made and then it might be submitted to the Secretary of State. 

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6:41am Thu 9 Jan 14

JLS of wd6 says...

That's another 350 houses/flats on top of what they want to build along the Elstree Way Corridor!! Lets just build, build and build and never mind the infrastructure. Time to get out I think.
That's another 350 houses/flats on top of what they want to build along the Elstree Way Corridor!! Lets just build, build and build and never mind the infrastructure. Time to get out I think. JLS of wd6
  • Score: 16

9:53am Thu 9 Jan 14

nickwells says...

And just where are all these new families expected to school their children?
The local schools are already busting at the seams and this problem is getting worse every year as the aging owners/tenants of existing Borehamwood properties are replaced by new younger families.
How does the planning department aim to resolve this problem?
By looking for places to build more housing because it's a cash cow!

Here's an idea, knock down the pub and build a school!
And just where are all these new families expected to school their children? The local schools are already busting at the seams and this problem is getting worse every year as the aging owners/tenants of existing Borehamwood properties are replaced by new younger families. How does the planning department aim to resolve this problem? By looking for places to build more housing because it's a cash cow! Here's an idea, knock down the pub and build a school! nickwells
  • Score: 17

10:13am Thu 9 Jan 14

kelvin says...

That would be a shame,Borehamwood is slowly turning into a concrete jungle,A pub has been there for years, i remember the old Bull and Tiger,oh well that's what happens when useless Governments let endless people into the Country.
That would be a shame,Borehamwood is slowly turning into a concrete jungle,A pub has been there for years, i remember the old Bull and Tiger,oh well that's what happens when useless Governments let endless people into the Country. kelvin
  • Score: 19

11:14am Thu 9 Jan 14

pwelsh says...

a great shame as it is the last pub/community facility in this side of borehamwood and it's always been there during my 60 year residence. i am not entirely surprised as it looks run down and pubs are suffering everywhere plus the value of the land.
the bigger problem is the relentless home building in the town which is spiralling out of control . the borough of hertsmere is already as the second most crowded place in the london commuter belt only behind watford.
a great shame as it is the last pub/community facility in this side of borehamwood and it's always been there during my 60 year residence. i am not entirely surprised as it looks run down and pubs are suffering everywhere plus the value of the land. the bigger problem is the relentless home building in the town which is spiralling out of control . the borough of hertsmere is already as the second most crowded place in the london commuter belt only behind watford. pwelsh
  • Score: 14

11:29am Thu 9 Jan 14

david Burcombe says...

I can see in 5 years time population in Borehamwood double what it is now and a permanent gridlock on all roads. It took me 27 minutes the other day to drive from Organ Hall to FurzeHill rad and only 3 minutes to drive up to Arundel Dive What will it be like in 2019 If I an still here or alive will it take me an hour to get to the Village centre and onto Tesco probably 90 minutes.
The only solution I can see is a more frequent bus services and ban the cars from the village which I do not like its taking away our freedom of choice
I can see in 5 years time population in Borehamwood double what it is now and a permanent gridlock on all roads. It took me 27 minutes the other day to drive from Organ Hall to FurzeHill rad and only 3 minutes to drive up to Arundel Dive What will it be like in 2019 If I an still here or alive will it take me an hour to get to the Village centre and onto Tesco probably 90 minutes. The only solution I can see is a more frequent bus services and ban the cars from the village which I do not like its taking away our freedom of choice david Burcombe
  • Score: 8

10:28pm Thu 9 Jan 14

stuart skilton says...

happy nEw year people :
happy nEw year people : stuart skilton
  • Score: -2

7:20am Fri 10 Jan 14

chelseaboy says...

I remember the Bull & Tiger, my dad played darts there in the 50's - 60's and it was a good family place.
I also went to both Furzehill Primary and Holmshill , all of which are to be or already are gone and forgotten.
Build houses and where are the people supposed to be entertained or educated.
I guess the UK now reaps what it has sown, from Melbourne it all seems so very sad and my ancestors, who are buried in All saints Churchyard, will be turning over.
Once the place was within the boundaries of the M25 then it was obvious all history would change.

Good luck to you all - just keep fighting for a decent supply of amenities for yourselves.

Kind Regards

One sad ex woodite
I remember the Bull & Tiger, my dad played darts there in the 50's - 60's and it was a good family place. I also went to both Furzehill Primary and Holmshill , all of which are to be or already are gone and forgotten. Build houses and where are the people supposed to be entertained or educated. I guess the UK now reaps what it has sown, from Melbourne it all seems so very sad and my ancestors, who are buried in All saints Churchyard, will be turning over. Once the place was within the boundaries of the M25 then it was obvious all history would change. Good luck to you all - just keep fighting for a decent supply of amenities for yourselves. Kind Regards One sad ex woodite chelseaboy
  • Score: 5

10:00am Fri 10 Jan 14

JLS of wd6 says...

It does seem to me that Borehamwood is getting all the new developments in Hertsmere. Hertsmere are due to get lots of money for these new houses. Will that money be ploughed back into Borehamwood or will the other areas benefit from it? It will be interesting to find out but I think I know the answer to that one. Out of the whole of Hertsmere Borehamwood seem to be getting the rough deal!!
It does seem to me that Borehamwood is getting all the new developments in Hertsmere. Hertsmere are due to get lots of money for these new houses. Will that money be ploughed back into Borehamwood or will the other areas benefit from it? It will be interesting to find out but I think I know the answer to that one. Out of the whole of Hertsmere Borehamwood seem to be getting the rough deal!! JLS of wd6
  • Score: 9

4:35pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Frank Ward says...

The possible removal of the Directors Arms may in the long term prove to be a viable commercial decision by the owners of the property, another source of revenue for Hertsmere Borough Council and of course the inevitable bonus for others who simply desire to reside in our town.
The available infrastructure while an important consideration, this is compounded by the impact on the indigenous population of Kenilworth and Hillside Wards will lose the use of the local pub.
The fact Hertsmere Borough Council has now admitted colluding with Hertsmere Leisure Services in the legal action heard in Watford Court and now adjourned to March this year to remove the Arundel Social Club from the Three Ways Community Centre will now give credence to the speculation within the community that this is a land grab for development with the Council in the driving seat?
The distance of the nearest venue to meet family, friends and others within the community is the pub in Shenley Road, a twenty five minute walk for some of us but a near impossibility if you are a senior citizen who apart from the costs would require to depend on the bus.
The residents of the community now faced with the loss of the pub and the impending departure of the Arundel Social Club have the right to demand that Hertsmere Borough Council stop hiding behind the smokescreen of Hertsmere Leisure Services and issue a statement about the social and leisure amenities that will be available for the residents of Kenilworth and Hillside Wards?
If the Council is reluctant to either discuss this matter or issue a statement then we must request the intervention of our MP James Clappison in taking our concerns to the Secretary of State for Communities the Rt. Hon. Eric Pickles MP.
Frank Ward
Chairman
Hertsmere UKIP
The possible removal of the Directors Arms may in the long term prove to be a viable commercial decision by the owners of the property, another source of revenue for Hertsmere Borough Council and of course the inevitable bonus for others who simply desire to reside in our town. The available infrastructure while an important consideration, this is compounded by the impact on the indigenous population of Kenilworth and Hillside Wards will lose the use of the local pub. The fact Hertsmere Borough Council has now admitted colluding with Hertsmere Leisure Services in the legal action heard in Watford Court and now adjourned to March this year to remove the Arundel Social Club from the Three Ways Community Centre will now give credence to the speculation within the community that this is a land grab for development with the Council in the driving seat? The distance of the nearest venue to meet family, friends and others within the community is the pub in Shenley Road, a twenty five minute walk for some of us but a near impossibility if you are a senior citizen who apart from the costs would require to depend on the bus. The residents of the community now faced with the loss of the pub and the impending departure of the Arundel Social Club have the right to demand that Hertsmere Borough Council stop hiding behind the smokescreen of Hertsmere Leisure Services and issue a statement about the social and leisure amenities that will be available for the residents of Kenilworth and Hillside Wards? If the Council is reluctant to either discuss this matter or issue a statement then we must request the intervention of our MP James Clappison in taking our concerns to the Secretary of State for Communities the Rt. Hon. Eric Pickles MP. Frank Ward Chairman Hertsmere UKIP Frank Ward
  • Score: 2

5:34pm Mon 13 Jan 14

stuart skilton says...

Frank Ward wrote:
The possible removal of the Directors Arms may in the long term prove to be a viable commercial decision by the owners of the property, another source of revenue for Hertsmere Borough Council and of course the inevitable bonus for others who simply desire to reside in our town.
The available infrastructure while an important consideration, this is compounded by the impact on the indigenous population of Kenilworth and Hillside Wards will lose the use of the local pub.
The fact Hertsmere Borough Council has now admitted colluding with Hertsmere Leisure Services in the legal action heard in Watford Court and now adjourned to March this year to remove the Arundel Social Club from the Three Ways Community Centre will now give credence to the speculation within the community that this is a land grab for development with the Council in the driving seat?
The distance of the nearest venue to meet family, friends and others within the community is the pub in Shenley Road, a twenty five minute walk for some of us but a near impossibility if you are a senior citizen who apart from the costs would require to depend on the bus.
The residents of the community now faced with the loss of the pub and the impending departure of the Arundel Social Club have the right to demand that Hertsmere Borough Council stop hiding behind the smokescreen of Hertsmere Leisure Services and issue a statement about the social and leisure amenities that will be available for the residents of Kenilworth and Hillside Wards?
If the Council is reluctant to either discuss this matter or issue a statement then we must request the intervention of our MP James Clappison in taking our concerns to the Secretary of State for Communities the Rt. Hon. Eric Pickles MP.
Frank Ward
Chairman
Hertsmere UKIP
like that makes any difrence, well we are moving dont want to be in a building site plus the thought of c p order ,well better get out qwick we all no the hertsmire are dodggy ,cash mungers look around what have thay dune with all the cash ,please tell me ,,,what havethat dune with all the money from hillside school ,ha..we all no this is the next place in the uk to be over taken bye people with cash lots of them,,, well if you look around there havent spent any of there own cash in years in this town it all crapp we r off,you can have the wood for all its worth ,,we have lived here since to 70s but ha the pub was a life line,,i will not put 1 penny in to it now,,bournemouth watch out dad and i are coming
[quote][p][bold]Frank Ward[/bold] wrote: The possible removal of the Directors Arms may in the long term prove to be a viable commercial decision by the owners of the property, another source of revenue for Hertsmere Borough Council and of course the inevitable bonus for others who simply desire to reside in our town. The available infrastructure while an important consideration, this is compounded by the impact on the indigenous population of Kenilworth and Hillside Wards will lose the use of the local pub. The fact Hertsmere Borough Council has now admitted colluding with Hertsmere Leisure Services in the legal action heard in Watford Court and now adjourned to March this year to remove the Arundel Social Club from the Three Ways Community Centre will now give credence to the speculation within the community that this is a land grab for development with the Council in the driving seat? The distance of the nearest venue to meet family, friends and others within the community is the pub in Shenley Road, a twenty five minute walk for some of us but a near impossibility if you are a senior citizen who apart from the costs would require to depend on the bus. The residents of the community now faced with the loss of the pub and the impending departure of the Arundel Social Club have the right to demand that Hertsmere Borough Council stop hiding behind the smokescreen of Hertsmere Leisure Services and issue a statement about the social and leisure amenities that will be available for the residents of Kenilworth and Hillside Wards? If the Council is reluctant to either discuss this matter or issue a statement then we must request the intervention of our MP James Clappison in taking our concerns to the Secretary of State for Communities the Rt. Hon. Eric Pickles MP. Frank Ward Chairman Hertsmere UKIP[/p][/quote]like that makes any difrence, well we are moving dont want to be in a building site plus the thought of c p order ,well better get out qwick we all no the hertsmire are dodggy ,cash mungers look around what have thay dune with all the cash ,please tell me ,,,what havethat dune with all the money from hillside school ,ha..we all no this is the next place in the uk to be over taken bye people with cash lots of them,,, well if you look around there havent spent any of there own cash in years in this town it all crapp we r off,you can have the wood for all its worth ,,we have lived here since to 70s but ha the pub was a life line,,i will not put 1 penny in to it now,,bournemouth watch out dad and i are coming stuart skilton
  • Score: 0

6:33pm Mon 13 Jan 14

nickwells says...

Recently we have seen Oaktrees and now Gemini Park (to name just 2 sites) add hundreds of homes to Borehamwood. The Developments are advertised with lines such as: "Parents will appreciate that there are many schools within close proximity of the development, providing education for children of all ages". The developer has pledged more than £1 million to the local council, to improve local amenities and schools which according to Hertsmere Site will be spent locally.
http://www.hertsmere
.gov.uk/News/Article
s/January/Money-from
-new-homes-to-stay-l
ocal.aspx

This is a good thing, as the local Primary schools are heavily oversubscribed even before these new homes are occupied.

I read with interest (also on the Hertsmere website) that this money is now being spent.
"Big shout out as a Borehamwood school receives valuable funding" http://www.hertsmere
.gov.uk/News/Article
s/January/Big-shout-
out-as-a-Borehamwood
-school-receives-val
uable-funding.aspx

They have spent £1500 towards an outdoor sound system.

Really? That's your Big Shout?
I suggest you invest some of this money on a large fleet of coaches as you're going to need them to transport children out of town for schooling! Why? Because you've sold off half of the land of the largest secondary school in the town to... build more houses!
Recently we have seen Oaktrees and now Gemini Park (to name just 2 sites) add hundreds of homes to Borehamwood. The Developments are advertised with lines such as: "Parents will appreciate that there are many schools within close proximity of the development, providing education for children of all ages". The developer has pledged more than £1 million to the local council, to improve local amenities and schools which according to Hertsmere Site will be spent locally. http://www.hertsmere .gov.uk/News/Article s/January/Money-from -new-homes-to-stay-l ocal.aspx This is a good thing, as the local Primary schools are heavily oversubscribed even before these new homes are occupied. I read with interest (also on the Hertsmere website) that this money is now being spent. "Big shout out as a Borehamwood school receives valuable funding" http://www.hertsmere .gov.uk/News/Article s/January/Big-shout- out-as-a-Borehamwood -school-receives-val uable-funding.aspx They have spent £1500 towards an outdoor sound system. Really? That's your Big Shout? I suggest you invest some of this money on a large fleet of coaches as you're going to need them to transport children out of town for schooling! Why? Because you've sold off half of the land of the largest secondary school in the town to... build more houses! nickwells
  • Score: 3

7:12pm Mon 13 Jan 14

stuart skilton says...

you cant stop these people , so what will you do stit in your house in the wood a moan,,,, lol i cant wait to leave the place now 30 years ive been going in the directors arms i somtimes spend up to £200 a week in the but after seeing this post my dad and i are a little bit stressed coss it going to be a building site for ages here ,i want to rent my dads house out now and move him to bournemouth thaks to the landlord btw dont you think you could of told me it was going to be developed,well dont think im going to put £1 in your pocket from now on ,,, i hope thay build 1 bed flats there thats what is needed realy ,well said to see it go but hay ho the way life is now days,,, bye bull and tiger,, no more cash from the skiltons,,you can go fly now i hope it all falls flat on your feet btw did you no there is a river running under it it branches off into granthem green good luck with that lol,,,,4 bed house to let cleavland crescent people
you cant stop these people , so what will you do stit in your house in the wood a moan,,,, lol i cant wait to leave the place now 30 years ive been going in the directors arms i somtimes spend up to £200 a week in the but after seeing this post my dad and i are a little bit stressed coss it going to be a building site for ages here ,i want to rent my dads house out now and move him to bournemouth thaks to the landlord btw dont you think you could of told me it was going to be developed,well dont think im going to put £1 in your pocket from now on ,,, i hope thay build 1 bed flats there thats what is needed realy ,well said to see it go but hay ho the way life is now days,,, bye bull and tiger,, no more cash from the skiltons,,you can go fly now i hope it all falls flat on your feet btw did you no there is a river running under it it branches off into granthem green good luck with that lol,,,,4 bed house to let cleavland crescent people stuart skilton
  • Score: -1

10:41am Thu 16 Jan 14

Frank Ward says...

Hertsmere UKIP will be holding a public meeting to provide the opportunity for the residents of Kenilworth and Hillside Wards to express their views and indeed profound anger and concern about the sinister destruction of the quality life within their respective community by a Council that appears to have lost contact with its people?
The meeting will be held in the Three Ways Community Centre in Arundel Drive, Boreham Wood on Wednesday 29th January 2014, commencing at 8 pm.
PLease come along and express your concerns about our Town.
Residents have expressed the need for an Action Group to represent the opposition of the people of Boreham Wood against the 'land grab' development of our Town by a Council in collusion with property speculators while the more privileged and favoured locations like Radlett and Potters Bar remain relatively untouched?
If you believe your community is also threatened with a similar 'land grab' anywhere in Boreham Wood please come along and have you say.
Frank Ward
Chairman
Hertsmere UKIP
Hertsmere UKIP will be holding a public meeting to provide the opportunity for the residents of Kenilworth and Hillside Wards to express their views and indeed profound anger and concern about the sinister destruction of the quality life within their respective community by a Council that appears to have lost contact with its people? The meeting will be held in the Three Ways Community Centre in Arundel Drive, Boreham Wood on Wednesday 29th January 2014, commencing at 8 pm. PLease come along and express your concerns about our Town. Residents have expressed the need for an Action Group to represent the opposition of the people of Boreham Wood against the 'land grab' development of our Town by a Council in collusion with property speculators while the more privileged and favoured locations like Radlett and Potters Bar remain relatively untouched? If you believe your community is also threatened with a similar 'land grab' anywhere in Boreham Wood please come along and have you say. Frank Ward Chairman Hertsmere UKIP Frank Ward
  • Score: 0

2:40am Mon 20 Jan 14

matt-dye says...

it already looks derelict
it already looks derelict matt-dye
  • Score: 0

8:20am Thu 30 Jan 14

chelseaboy says...

I don't know you Frank Ward, but please keep up your fight for the 'little' people, i hope your meeting went well, though even as I am in Melbourne my thoughts are with you.
I don't know you Frank Ward, but please keep up your fight for the 'little' people, i hope your meeting went well, though even as I am in Melbourne my thoughts are with you. chelseaboy
  • Score: 0

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